This was interesting to me:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1157784/Do-mysterious-stones-mark\
-site-Garden-Eden.html
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Andis Kaulins replied:
Gobekli Tepe, referred to in the previous posting and already discussed or mentioned in November of last year here on LexiLine (here, here and here ), is an important archaeological site.
As I shall demonstrate in my next posting, there is no doubt that these megaliths are astronomical, though the dating assigned to them currently by the archaeologists is false.
I have provisionally deciphered some of the stones and will post something about that decipherment, perhaps later today. I have been reluctant to publish my work up to now, even though my results have been available for a while, because not really enough photos and no really useful groundplans of the Gobekli Tepe megalithic site are available online yet - and that is typical for the archaeologists - lots of hype, not enough hard-nosed facts.
However, it appears to be important to emphasize that the megaliths of Gobekli Tepe are astronomy and material from me is forthcoming forthwith.
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Steve Burdic replied:
There are several interesting u tube movies of Gobekli Tepe. Some show an overhead reconstruction viz. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBfxUq6Z1KM
Several are even in German. A google earth view of the area is also enlightening.
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Andis Kaulins replied:
Yes, thank you for your reference. The problem is that there are no
resources online to determine where each of the stones with figures on
them are specifically located within the complex. All that we know thus
far is that there are numerous circles of stones and that some of them
have some spectacular images carved upon them, spectacular in any case,
if one believes the erroneous dating assigned to those megaliths
currently. In fact, archaeologists still treat each stone as a if it led
a monadic existence, rather than looking at the whole picture. This
total cluelessness has nevertheless not hindered some commentators from
publishing completely unbased speculations about the meaning of the
stones. You can forget all of them. These complexes are astronomical in
nature - and one of the stones is truly spectacular because it allows me
to date the entire complex to a specific ancient passage of Halley's
Comet. So much for clues.
In any case, I have been held up the past couple of days with a number
of other things that have come up so that I will not be posting my
Gobekli Tepe materials for a week or more. I am rechecking everything as
well to make sure the best possible analysis is presented, given the
extremely limited materials that I presently have to work with. Writing
my results up properly is also taking more time than expected.
See if you can find Halley's Comet on one of the megaliths. It is there.
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Steve Burdic replied:
At http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmSIG4qV2Sg some additional view of the stones. This one has reference to copies of the stones in a German museum: Badisches Landesmuseum Karlsruhe.If they have copies there they might have other information like stone placements etc. When I first saw this clip I was concerned they had taken the stones out of place and hauled them to Germany thus disturbing their orientation. Not so.
Have you looked at Galactic Alignment 2012 by John Major Jenkins? It is about the Mayan end of time to be sure but I got a lot out of the book. His theory is that Mayan religion used the precession caused alignment of the winter solstice with the galactic center to base their entire reality (mythic) structure on. You can say what you want about the "end of the world" aspect but I took several things away from the book. One was that modern man migrated out of Africa only 70,000 years ago. Another was that in that same time frame, due to drought, modern humans numbered about 4,000 people. Another thing was that the plane of the galaxy and the plane of the ecliptic make an angle of 60 degrees. that is the same angle as the solstice at Cahokia. In the process of working out the geometry of that angle I have noticed the resulting diamond shaped figure of two connected equilateral triangles as a major design feature worldwide. Since the solstice angle is dependent on the latitude of observation, I could not understand why that diamond has such wide spread appeal. Naturally, there are many factors (surveying, architecture, mathematics, astronomy etc) but now I think that galactic/ecliptic angle may have made the latitude where the solstice angle occurs more important for religious centers (Gobelki Tepe is on that latitude).
This book is very speculative but he uses the work of many archeologists to support his work and uses evidence to support his speculation. It also helped me put meso-american history together better than any other book I have read.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1157784/Do-mysterious-stones-mark\
-site-Garden-Eden.html
______________
Andis Kaulins replied:
Gobekli Tepe, referred to in the previous posting and already discussed or mentioned in November of last year here on LexiLine (here, here and here ), is an important archaeological site.
As I shall demonstrate in my next posting, there is no doubt that these megaliths are astronomical, though the dating assigned to them currently by the archaeologists is false.
I have provisionally deciphered some of the stones and will post something about that decipherment, perhaps later today. I have been reluctant to publish my work up to now, even though my results have been available for a while, because not really enough photos and no really useful groundplans of the Gobekli Tepe megalithic site are available online yet - and that is typical for the archaeologists - lots of hype, not enough hard-nosed facts.
However, it appears to be important to emphasize that the megaliths of Gobekli Tepe are astronomy and material from me is forthcoming forthwith.
______________
Steve Burdic replied:
There are several interesting u tube movies of Gobekli Tepe. Some show an overhead reconstruction viz. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBfxUq6Z1KM
Several are even in German. A google earth view of the area is also enlightening.
______________
Andis Kaulins replied:
Yes, thank you for your reference. The problem is that there are no
resources online to determine where each of the stones with figures on
them are specifically located within the complex. All that we know thus
far is that there are numerous circles of stones and that some of them
have some spectacular images carved upon them, spectacular in any case,
if one believes the erroneous dating assigned to those megaliths
currently. In fact, archaeologists still treat each stone as a if it led
a monadic existence, rather than looking at the whole picture. This
total cluelessness has nevertheless not hindered some commentators from
publishing completely unbased speculations about the meaning of the
stones. You can forget all of them. These complexes are astronomical in
nature - and one of the stones is truly spectacular because it allows me
to date the entire complex to a specific ancient passage of Halley's
Comet. So much for clues.
In any case, I have been held up the past couple of days with a number
of other things that have come up so that I will not be posting my
Gobekli Tepe materials for a week or more. I am rechecking everything as
well to make sure the best possible analysis is presented, given the
extremely limited materials that I presently have to work with. Writing
my results up properly is also taking more time than expected.
See if you can find Halley's Comet on one of the megaliths. It is there.
______________
Steve Burdic replied:
At http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmSIG4qV2Sg some additional view of the stones. This one has reference to copies of the stones in a German museum: Badisches Landesmuseum Karlsruhe.If they have copies there they might have other information like stone placements etc. When I first saw this clip I was concerned they had taken the stones out of place and hauled them to Germany thus disturbing their orientation. Not so.
Have you looked at Galactic Alignment 2012 by John Major Jenkins? It is about the Mayan end of time to be sure but I got a lot out of the book. His theory is that Mayan religion used the precession caused alignment of the winter solstice with the galactic center to base their entire reality (mythic) structure on. You can say what you want about the "end of the world" aspect but I took several things away from the book. One was that modern man migrated out of Africa only 70,000 years ago. Another was that in that same time frame, due to drought, modern humans numbered about 4,000 people. Another thing was that the plane of the galaxy and the plane of the ecliptic make an angle of 60 degrees. that is the same angle as the solstice at Cahokia. In the process of working out the geometry of that angle I have noticed the resulting diamond shaped figure of two connected equilateral triangles as a major design feature worldwide. Since the solstice angle is dependent on the latitude of observation, I could not understand why that diamond has such wide spread appeal. Naturally, there are many factors (surveying, architecture, mathematics, astronomy etc) but now I think that galactic/ecliptic angle may have made the latitude where the solstice angle occurs more important for religious centers (Gobelki Tepe is on that latitude).
This book is very speculative but he uses the work of many archeologists to support his work and uses evidence to support his speculation. It also helped me put meso-american history together better than any other book I have read.
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